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With the World Series completed, the Marlins now are about to conclude their manager search.
Their search has led the team back to where the season ended.
In recent days, speculation had been growing that there were two finalists — Edwin Rodriguez and Bo Porter.
But on Tuesday, the Nationals announced their staff, and Porter was named their third base coach.
With Porter out of the mix, the Marlins now are set to announce they will retain Rodriguez. An official announcement is expected on Wednesday, according to sources.
Along with naming Rodriguez, who met on Tuesday with team owner Jeffrey Loria in New York, the Marlins are set to finalize their staff. Perry Hill will return to the ballclub and be the infield and first base coach. John Mallee will be back as hitting coach. Brandon Hyde returns as bench coach, and pitching coach Randy St. Claire will return. Joe Espada is lined up to be the third base coach.
Rodriguez posted a 46-46 record with the Marlins after taking over for Fredi Gonzalez in late June. For the season, Florida was 80-82 — third place in the NL East.
Rodriguez is the first Puerto Rican-born manager in MLB history. The 50-year-old was promoted from being the Triple-A New Orleans manager on June 23.
A week ago, Marlins president David Samson said the team expected to make a managerial announcement after the World Series.
Shortly after the season ended, the Marlins pursued Bobby Valentine, who withdrew from consideration a couple of weeks ago. The team also inquired about the availability of Ozzie Guillen, who is returning to the White Sox.
– Joe Frisaro
The search for the Marlins new manager will take about two weeks.
Fresh off an 80-82 season, the front office is in the process of narrowing its list of candidates and setting up interviews. The process is expected to take a little while.
In contention for the job are Bobby Valentine, Jim Fregosi, Bo Porter and Tony Pena. Other names that have been reported are Ted Simmons and Tim Wallach.
Edwin Rodriguez, who replaced Fredi Gonzalez on June 23, remains a candidate. But it appears he isn’t a frontrunner. Under Rodriguez, the Marlins were 46-46.
As the Marlins are plotting how to move forward with their managerial search, the organization also are being impacted by the Mets’ general manager vacancy.
The Mets have asked for permission to talk with president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest, general manager Michael Hill and vice president of player personnel Dan Jennings about their GM post.
Indications are the Marlins will deny the request. However, ESPN.com reports that Jennings has a stipulation in his contract that would allow him to talk with the Mets. So the door may not be completely closed for him to talk with New York.
– Joe Frisaro
A list of candidates is being compiled, and more names are starting to surface. What remains unclear in the Marlins’ managerial search is if there is a true frontrunner.
The intriguing name out there is Ozzie Guillen, whose status with the White Sox remains unsettled. However, reports are out that Guillen is seeking a long-term contract to remain in Chicago.
If he were to become available, Guillen would instantly appear to be the Marlins’ first choice. The Marlins, though, haven’t made any public comments regarding their managerial position.
The team has repeatedly said after the season they will evaluate current manager Edwin Rodriguez, who has the Marlins one game over .500 (76-75) heading into their final road trip, which begins on Thursday at Milwaukee.
Guillen has ties with the Marlins. He was the third base coach in 2002-03.
Because some of the potential candidates project to be on the staffs of playoff teams, the search could last a little while. Rays bench coach Dave Martinez and third base coach Tom Foley are a couple of names to monitor. Both are regarded as solid big league managerial candidates. Whether they are fits for Florida is unclear right now.
There are a couple of other names floating around. Bobby Valentine, who was in consideration in June after Fredi Gonzalez was dismissed, remains in the picture. How much so, though, is in question. Indications are that Valentine will not get the job.
Bo Porter, the D-backs bench coach, interviewed after Gonzalez was let go. Porter also is being discussed internally. But like Valentine, he may not be the first option.
Padres first base coach Rich Renteria and Yankees bench coach Tony Pena also are under consideration. And Ted Simmons, the Padres bench coach, has been mentioned, but he doesn’t appear to be the first choice.
Other names brought up in various media reports are Larry Bowa and Wally Backman.
For now, the Marlins are playing out the season before deciding which direction to go in 2011.
– Joe Frisaro
Having previous big league managing experience will be a plus for those under consideration to manage the Marlins in 2011.
Meeting the criteria is Tony Pena.
Currently the Yankees bench coach, Pena spent parts of four seasons (2002-05) managing the Royals. In 2003, he was named the American League Manager of the Year.
Internally, the Marlins see Pena as a serious candidate.
The Marlins will address their manager situation after the season. So right now they are evaluating their options.
Edwin Rodriguez, who replaced Fredi Gonzalez in late June, also will receive consideration. But the team has made it clear that it will further evaluate Rodriguez once the season ends.
Most likely, the team will explore several possibilities, including Bobby Valentine. With Pena expected to be in the mix, the search could last throughout the playoffs.
The Yankees are primed to be in the postseason. So if the Marlins plan on interviewing Pena, they may have to wait until an opportune time arises in October or perhaps early November.
Pena, 53, was a five-time All-Star, and he won four Gold Glove awards.
One of the primary positions the Marlins plan to address in the offseason is catcher.
– Joe Frisaro
The “process” ran its course. Now, the Marlins have moved forward. Edwin Rodriguez is the new manager, but questions remain as to why negotiations with Bobby Valentine broke down.
A few days ago, Valentine made some critical remarks on ESPN’s Baseball Tonight.
“If this is a Major-League process, I hope I’m never in the process again. It’s very disturbing, confusing and it was insulting at times,” Valentine said on ESPN.
Valentine offered some more insight on SIRIUS XM’s Mad Dog Radio with host Chris Russo.
Here’s the conversation.
Chris Russo: “Those are some harsh words. Can you tell me what’s going on with the Marlins?”
Bobby Valentine: “I didn’t mean for them to be harsh. I just meant for them to be honest. It’s a tough process once you start getting down to a situation. We never negotiated anything and, you know, I just feel when you’re 60 years old – you know, I know Jeffrey [Loria], I’ve known him for 25 years – I just felt that being left in the dark isn’t quite the way to allow things to move forward.
But I think it’s a good situation. As I told them right from the start, someone from the outside moving in in mid-season I don’t believe is a good idea. I don’t think you can train coaches and train players to think and do what you’re expecting on the run. That’s what spring training is for. And Edwin Rodriguez has had these guys in the minor leagues. He knows the spring training process, what that organizational philosophy is. So, you know, that was a good move. If, in fact, they had to change Fredi [Gonzalez] I would think that’s probably the right way to go.”
Russo: “So in other words, Bobby, they talked to you and then left you in the dark? What do you mean ‘left you in the dark?’ They began a discussion? What happened?”
Valentine: “Yeah, basically. I mean, I don’t want to get into the details on it, Chris. You know, I mean, I was reading in the paper I wasn’t a candidate, you know? And I don’t really like that stuff. You know, we did have conversations and then the next thing I know their leaks have people writing things that I’m no longer a candidate and they’re going in another direction. Well, you know, if that’s the case tell me. I’m a big boy. It’s real easy.”
Russo: “Would you say you’re soured on this whole managerial search now for these jobs? Was the Baltimore thing decent?”
Valentine: “No. To tell you the truth, the in-season stuff where you have all the rules and regulations that are set forth – rightfully so, I guess – by the commissioner that you have to interview so many different types of people from in and outside your organization before you’re allowed to hire a person you want to, it’s a pretty tough process. I don’t know that it’s tough. It doesn’t seem like it’s the way most industries do it.”
– Joe Frisaro
A constant in an otherwise confusing week was the Marlins determination to “find the right guy” to be the next manager.
Some clarity came on Tuesday, one day shy of a week that Fredi Gonzalez was dismissed.
Ending six franctic days of speculation and plot twists, team owner Jeffrey Loria told the team minutes before taking the field on Tuesday that Edwin Rodriguez would manage the club for the remainder of the season.
At that point, the owner will re-evaluate which direction to go. The timing of the decision was crucial because the clubhouse was wondering what would happen next.
“Continuity is important, and that’s what we’re going to do,” Loria said.
To the players credit, they stayed as focused as possible under otherwise trying circumstances.
To Rodriguez’s credit, he handled his interim status with class and dignity. Never did he speak about what was in his best interests. He talked about how it would be fair foremost for the players to know who they will be answering to. Now they know.
What this means for the big picture — the future of the franchise — we’ll have to wait and see.
Still unanswered is what went wrong in the negotiations with Bobby Valentine. The frontrunner when Gonzalez was let go, all signs pointed to Valentine taking over until late Sunday night.
When Loria announced Rodriguez was staying on, he said he didn’t want to go into details of anything else. So the team isn’t saying what happened.
Indications are there was a difference in philosophy, perhaps with Valentine wanting more say in personnel moves. The Marlins remain a low-payroll roster, and the team has a number of young players, like Mike Stanton, who are adjusting to the big leagues.
Typically, high-profile managers are brought in with the expectation to win now. Whether it’s Pat Riley or Bill Parcells or Phil Jackson, they are looking to win championships, not rebuild.
Bobby Valentine would have been a Pat Riley or Bill Parcells type presence in South Florida. He would have been the Marlins’ answer to Joe Torre.
Those types of people aren’t stepping into seven-year projects. They are there to help a team reach a championship, sooner rather than later.
Perhaps after the season, Valentine will be re-visited. By then, though, he may entertain other possibilities.
Bo Porter also interviewed for the job, and he was impressive. Now Arizona’s third base coach, Porter was a strong candidate after a very good interview last Friday. Had the Marlins gone with Porter, it likely would have been a sign that they would get younger again.
Also the outfield coach, Porter would have been viewed as someone to work with Stanton, Cameron Maybin, and perhaps Logan Morrison, when he eventually is promoted from Triple-A. Porter has familiarity in the clubhouse because he was on the Marlins staff from 2007-09. The organization likes his energy and passion.
As part of the staff shakeup, outfield coach Dave Collins stepped down last Saturday. Collins was very popular. Porter would have been a familiar voice as a replacement.
By staying with Rodriguez, the organization has more time to weigh the situation without making any hasty decisions. The players also have a building connection with Rodriguez, whom many played for in the Minor Leagues.
For the rest of the year, the Marlins players and staff can focus on playing baseball. The team has work to do if they want to get back into the race. They are three-games under .500, and the July 31 trade deadline is approaching. So more changes can be made — this time in terms of player movement — if the club falls completely out of the race.
Now with the cloud of uncertainty lifted, the current staff and set of players have been given a chance to seize the opportunity.
– Joe Frisaro
If the Marlins indeed are turning their search away from Bobby Valentine, the new frontrunner may be Bo Porter.
Porter, now Arizona’s third base coach, interviewed for the Florida job last Saturday. From 2007-09, he was the Marlins third base/outfield coach.
Jon Heyman of SI.com reported late Monday that the Marlins are seriously considering Porter. There are strong indications that the team is internally is giving the prospect strong consideration.
Porter is looked upon as a candidate who will bring energy to the job. He was respected by the players in his three seasons as a coach, and he has a little more seasoning coaching at the big league level than Edwin Rodriguez.
Rodriguez was named interim manager when Fredi Gonzalez was dismissed on June 23. The first Puerto Rican-born manager in MLB history, Rodriguez has been well received in Puerto Rico where the Marlins are facing the Mets in a three-game series in San Juan.
Rodriguez interviewed for the job on Saturday, and he remains in the mix. The process has no time line, but Porter may have the inside edge, if the field is down to Porter and Rodriguez, who previously was the Triple-A New Orleans manager.
Talks between the Marlins and Valentine broke down on Sunday, and it is unclear if there is any chance of both sides getting together. In the meantime, Porter is definitely a strong candidate for the full-time job.
The organization has had no comment on the managerial search.
– Joe Frisaro
Standing among the observers watching the Marlins work out on the back fields at Roger Dean Stadium on Saturday was Bobby Valentine.
The former big league manager and current ESPN analyst took a few minutes to talk with a couple of Marlins beat reporters.
A topic that he answered directly was the speculation that he would manage the Marlins. Last October, a story broke that Valentine was being considered to replace Fredi Gonzalez.
On Saturday, Valentine said the rumors were not true and that he never spoke with Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria about managing the squad. Valentine and Loria have known each other for many years, and have spoken. But not about him guiding the club.
“How in the world would anybody [assume], because we have a connection [that a managing inquiry was made],” Valentine said. “We have a talk, and all of a sudden, the only talk was would I manage this team? Jeffrey is a passionate guy. I like his passion.”
Valentine has known Loria since the 1980s.
Asked if he were asked by Loria to manage the Marlins, Valentine said flatly: “No.”
“To manage the team this year? No,” he said. “We’ve talked on the state of the game, and the international state of the game. We didn’t talk much about his team.”
Valentine said the speculation was unfair to Gonzalez, who guided the Marlins to 87 wins and a second place finish in 2009.
“When someone has a job, and especially when someone does a good job, like Fredi, it’s an unnecessary nuisance,” he said. “It’s unfair for me to have to answer questions that don’t have an answer to them.”
Valentine is impressed with the amount of talent in the Marlins system. He was on hand Saturday to gather information about the Marlins and Cardinals for his job at ESPN.
He carried with him binded books with statistical data on all the Marlins.
How well the Marlins will perform, Valentine says, will depend on its pitching.
“I don’t think they’re going to surprise anyone,” Bobby V. said. “I think the Marlins have a reputation that year in, year out of being an organization that gives everyone fits. They’re always in it to win it, I don’t think they surprise.
“Whether or not they put the pitching together, I don’t know. I haven’t seen all the reports on them. It reads pretty well.”
He adds that Hanley Ramirez is one of the rising stars who will carry the sport into the next generation.
“He’s a special talent,” Valentine said. “He’s got a beautiful swing. He’s got a swing that can only produce.”
– Joe Frisaro
With one regular season game remaining, already some offseason speculation has begun.
According to ESPN’s Buster Olney, the Marlins have had conversations with Bobby Valentine about a possible position within the organization.
The 59-year-old Valentine has managed the Rangers and Mets in the big leagues. The past six years he was managing the Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan. Recently, he returned to ESPN as an analyst. Valentine also is drawing interest from Cleveland and Washington, ESPN reports.
It is unclear what position the Marlins would have interest in Valentine. Manager Fredi Gonzalez received a two-year extension at the beginning of Spring Training, and he’s under contract through 2011.
The Marlins have yet to make a decision on the status of their coaching staff. On Saturday, President of Baseball Operations Larry Beinfest said that would be made after the season.
The Marlins are 87-74 heading into the last game of the season at Philadelphia, and they will finish no worse than in a second-place tie with Atlanta. They lead the Braves by one game with one game remaining. The only Marlins teams to win more games are the 1997 (92) and 2003 (91) squads. Both those teams won the World Series.
– Joe Frisaro